Gelato #45
A numbered Gelato phenotype with unclear provenance and minimal documented clone circulation.
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Gelato #45 exists in the original Cookie Fam Gelato lineup but never became a stable, widely-circulated clone like #33 or #41. Most flower sold as '#45' today has unverified origins — it could be a re-selection by another breeder, a seed-made cross, or a cut of unknown parentage. The number is useful marketing, but not a genetic guarantee. Enjoy it if you like it, but don't pay a premium for 'rarity' that can't be traced.
Overview
Gelato #45 is a numbered phenotype from the Gelato line developed in the San Francisco Bay Area by Cookie Fam Genetics in collaboration with Sherbinski. The parent cross — Sunset Sherbet × Thin Mint Girl Scout Cookies — produced dozens of numbered selections, of which #33 (often marketed as 'Larry Bird') and #41 ('Bacio Gelato') became the most commercially successful [1]. #45 exists within that lineup but was never elevated to the same status or widely distributed as a verified clone.
Unlike the more prominent Gelato phenotypes, #45 has limited documented presence in official breeder catalogs or extensive grower records. This matters: if you buy 'Gelato #45' from a dispensary or seed bank today, you are almost certainly purchasing either a re-selection under the same number by another breeder, a seed-made approximation, or flower from a grower who obtained a cut of uncertain provenance Disputed. The number itself does not guarantee genetic fidelity to the original Cookie Fam selection.
Chemistry: Cannabinoids and Terpenes
There is no peer-reviewed chemical profile specifically for Gelato #45. What follows is drawn from dispensary lab certificates of analysis (COAs) for flower sold under this name, which vary widely and are not phenotype-verified.
Cannabinoids:
- THC: Commonly reported in the 20–25% range on retail COAs Weak / limited. Note that retail THC labels are known to be inflated; independent testing has found real values substantially lower than labeled figures [7].
- CBD: Typically <1%, as with the rest of the Gelato line Weak / limited.
Terpenes:
The broader Gelato family, when tested in multi-strain surveys, shows a profile dominated by caryophyllene and limonene, sometimes with notable humulene or linalool [2]. However, whether #45 specifically follows this pattern is undocumented in any peer-reviewed dataset No data. Terpene content varies enormously with cultivation conditions, cure, and storage even within a single verified clone [3].
Be skeptical of any vendor listing precise terpene percentages for '#45' unless they provide a batch-specific certificate-of-analysis-coa. Marketing claims about dominant terpenes and their effects often lean on the folklore of fixed thresholds (e.g., 'myrcene above 0.5% causes sedation'), which lacks support in controlled human research [6].
Reported Effects
No strain-specific clinical trials exist for Gelato #45, or for any Gelato phenotype. All effect claims come from user self-reports on dispensary menus and cannabis community sites, which are subject to strong placebo, expectancy, and marketing effects [4] Anecdote.
Users typically describe a balanced hybrid feel — some cerebral lift followed by physical relaxation — consistent with what people report for the broader Gelato line. Common self-reported uses include stress relief and evening use. None of this constitutes medical evidence or scientific characterization of the strain.
The common marketing claim that 'indica-leaning' strains reliably sedate is folklore. Peer-reviewed research has repeatedly shown that indica-sativa-myth labels do not predict chemical profile or subjective effects in any consistent way [5]. Dose, tolerance, individual physiology, set, and setting matter far more than the name on the jar.
Lineage and Provenance
Official lineage: Sunset Sherbet × Thin Mint Girl Scout Cookies, per Cookie Fam Genetics and Sherbinski [1].
What is reliably documented:
- Gelato #33 ('Larry Bird') and Gelato #41 ('Bacio Gelato') circulated as stable clone-only cuts and became widely recognized in the cannabis community and retail market.
- The Gelato line was created as a deliberate cross project, not an accidental find, and the breeders have publicly discussed their work.
What remains disputed or unverified:
- Clone circulation: Unlike #33 and #41, there is no well-documented, widely-verified clone of '#45' known to have circulated from the original breeders. Disputed It is unclear whether a stable cut was ever released or established in breeder collections.
- Third-party seed packs: 'Gelato 45' seeds sold by breeders other than Cookie Fam or Sherbinski are re-crosses or S1 selections, not the original clone. These are genetically related to the Gelato family but are not the same plant as the original #45.
- Conflation with other cuts: Occasional vendors or growers conflate 'Gelato #45' with other numbered phenotypes or unrelated strains. No reliable public database of verified '#45' samples exists to verify these equivalences.
If provenance matters to you — for breeding, consistency, or archival growing — assume any '#45' you encounter is unverified unless the seller can trace it directly to Cookie Fam or Sherbinski.
Cultivation
Because no official Cookie Fam or Sherbinski breeder grow guide for '#45' has been published, the following is generalized from user reports and broader Gelato-line growing records and should be treated as approximate.
Timing and structure:
- Flowering time: ~56–63 days indoors under 12/12 light/dark Anecdote.
- Plant height and branching: Medium stature with typical Cookies/Gelato-family branching structure. Benefits from topping and selective defoliation in early flower.
Environment:
- Humidity: Prefers moderate relative humidity (~50%) in flower. Like many Gelato phenotypes, reportedly prone to bud rot if kept too wet late in flower, especially in cool conditions Anecdote.
- Temperature: Standard warm-day, cool-night cycling (65–75°F range) suits the Gelato family well.
Nutrition:
- Gelato phenotypes are often described in grower forums as nutrient-sensitive, showing phosphorus tip-burn at electrical conductivity (EC) levels that other strains tolerate without stress Anecdote.
- Start conservatively and monitor leaf colour; dial up incrementally.
Yield:
- Moderate yield per published reports, but no reliable published figure exists for '#45' specifically. Yield depends heavily on lighting, nutrient regime, and phenotype selection within seed runs.
Seed vs. clone: Beginners should know that 'Gelato 45' seed packs from third-party breeders will not reproduce a specific clone phenotype. Seeds produce genetic variation; you will get Gelato-family plants with different terpene and cannabinoid profiles within a single pack.
Marketing vs. Reality
The number is not a genetic fingerprint. '#45' is a historical selection tag within the original Cookie Fam lineup. Without verified clone provenance — a documented lineage trace back to the original breeder — the number is marketing identity, not a guarantee of genetics or effects.
'Rare phenotype' framing is used to justify premium pricing on flower whose actual lineage cannot be verified. In cannabis, 'rarity' often means 'poorly documented' rather than 'inherently special.' Rarity alone does not establish quality or consistency.
Terpene and 'entourage' claims made for specific Gelato numbers rarely have batch-level lab data behind them. The folklore threshold that myrcene-0-5-percent-threshold or a single dominant terpene determines effects is not supported by controlled human research [6]. Cannabis chemotype and subjective effects are influenced by the full blend of cannabinoids, terpenes, and alkaloids, but no simple rule predicts user experience from a terpene profile alone [6].
THC percentages on retail labels are inflated across the U.S. market. Independent testing has repeatedly found real values substantially lower than labels report [7]. Apply that skepticism to any '#45' lab results you see.
Gelato #45 may be a pleasant and aromatic cultivar to grow and smoke. It is not a well-characterized one from a scientific or breeder-verification standpoint, and no honest source can tell you exactly what genetic or chemical profile you are purchasing.
Frequently Asked Questions
Is Gelato #45 an indica or sativa?
Gelato #45 is classified as a hybrid. The distinction between indica and sativa labels has no reliable connection to cannabinoid content, terpene profile, or subjective effects — see indica-sativa-myth for details. User reports describe a balanced effect rather than a heavily sedating or energizing one, but this varies by individual, dose, and consumption context.
What is the THC level?
Gelato #45 typically tests at 20–25% THC on retail certificates of analysis Weak / limited. However, retail THC labels are known to be inflated; the actual potency may be somewhat lower [7]. Real THC levels depend on the specific cut, growing conditions, cure, and storage. No universally verified '#45' sample exists, so this range is an estimate from diverse sources.
How long does it flower?
Gelato #45 typically flowers in 56–63 days indoors under 12/12 light/dark, based on grower reports of the broader Gelato line Anecdote. Outdoor flowering timing would depend on your climate and photoperiod.
Who originally bred Gelato #45?
Gelato #45 is part of the Gelato line developed by Cookie Fam Genetics in collaboration with Sherbinski in the San Francisco Bay Area [1]. However, unlike Gelato #33 and #41, no stable, widely-circulated clone of '#45' is well-documented. Most 'Gelato #45' flower on the market today has unverified origins and may not be genetically identical to the original selection.
Sources
- Reported Jikomes, Nick. 'The Gelato Family: Origins and Popular Phenotypes.' Leafly, 2019.
- Peer-reviewed Smith, C.J., Vergara, D., Keegan, B., Jikomes, N. 'The phytochemical diversity of commercial Cannabis in the United States.' PLOS ONE, vol. 17, no. 1, 2022, e0267498.
- Peer-reviewed Ross, S.A., ElSohly, M.A. 'The volatile oil composition of fresh and air-dried buds of Cannabis sativa.' Journal of Natural Products, vol. 59, no. 6, 1996, pp. 549–551.
- Peer-reviewed Gertsch, J. 'The intricate influence of the placebo effect on medical cannabis and cannabinoids.' Medical Cannabis and Cannabinoids, vol. 1, no. 1, 2018, pp. 60–67.
- Peer-reviewed Piomelli, D., Russo, E.B. 'The Cannabis sativa versus Cannabis indica debate: An interview with Ethan Russo, MD.' Cannabis and Cannabinoid Research, vol. 1, no. 1, 2016, pp. 44–56.
- Peer-reviewed Russo, E.B. 'Taming THC: potential cannabis synergy and phytocannabinoid-terpenoid entourage effects.' British Journal of Pharmacology, vol. 163, no. 7, 2011, pp. 1344–1364.
- Peer-reviewed Schwabe, A.L., Johnson, V., Harrelson, J., McGlaughlin, M.E. 'Uncomfortably high: Testing reveals inflated THC potency on retail Cannabis labels.' PLOS ONE, vol. 18, no. 2, 2023, e0282396.
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